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By Susanna Sweeney, MSC, MBACP, CHT
What is future life progression hypnosis? I had the pleasure of interviewing Anne Jirsch who pioneered this work and helps her clients to confidently design their own future.
Susanna Sweeney: Hello, Anne, it's lovely to talk to you. This is Anne Jirsch from Maidenhead in the UK. Anne thank you for joining me so much for this chat. Anne tell me, how did you as an intuitive originally get into hypnotherapy?
Anne Jirsch: Ah, right. Okay, so I was- I am going back a lot years. So you couldn't just go on Google to find somebody. It's very difficult to find training back in the day. Now you're falling over people teaching you but you weren't back then you going back. The world's changed a lot in a few decades.
I wanted to do past life regression, I was just fascinated by the subject. I was already working as an intuitive. I read cards. And it took me a long time to find somebody who did past life. People would tell me an experience. And I'd say, get me to the room of the person with the question, give me the number and it was a dead number. And you had no way to try and find people in the phone book.
See how much the world has changed in a number of years. And this went on for several years. I just used to really I was desperate to be regressed because I heard these stories that I thought it is that sometimes you go somewhere you just think, ah my God, I've been here before I know what's around the corner, you can't have that feeling or you meet somebody and you immediately have an aversion to them or you go, we're going to be good friends. Men are really good at meeting a woman and going, I'm going to marry her before they've even spoken, men are better at that.
But I was fascinated. I kept seeing all these things thinking, all fit with something to past life. And I spent a year in India and that just made my thinking even more so because they would tell me incredible stories about the cycle of life and how it makes more sense to have many lifetimes. But there was no, no training anywhere.
I couldn't even find anybody to take me back. And then, this is going back a lot years- the great Denise Linn, she's- I still think she's the best in the world at past life. She came over to London and she did 800 people in the room- 800 took us all back to past lives, and it was mind blowing. It was an absolutely mind blowing experience.
Then she went back off to America, I still didn't know where to train. So what I figured was if maybe I should go and train in hypnotherapy, so I've got some sort of a certificate. I mean, I'm not that fussed about certificates. But I just thought maybe to go and have some training. And I just wrote my own scripts. So I went for hypnotherapy, to train in hypnotherapy purely so I could work with past life and set my own thing up. But it did grip me.
I mean, I'd had hypnotherapy once and this was- I was really young, and I needed this job in financial services and I needed it I was pretty young back then. And I can't add up it's like a number blindness I have you know, like people are dyslexic- I don't know if there's a word for it, there probably is, but I'm not good with figures and I- I needed to be able to add up for this job and I needed the job so I actually went for hypnotherapy quite young and said to the guy you got to kind of, sort my head out so I can add up, and he- it was the weirdest thing- he sat me in a deck chair like a proper sea side side stripy deck chair.
I could hear him rustling papers about- but it worked. Okay, now I mean, I'm never going to be a mathematical genius but I could add up to an extent when I left. It certainly cleared the panic I felt and helped clear my head. So I've had it once and I had faith in it. Had faith in the guy he had a goatee, and I thought if he's got a goatee he must be good, you know? You know when they look the part you think, oh yeah, even though he sat me in a deck chair, I still thought he must be good.
He came across good. So anyway, I started working with past life, but it still interested me, the hypnotherapy. So throughout the ages, I did build a practice I did build a hypnotherapy practice and I worked with a whole range of things. But I found people would be attracted to me for addictions. That was an interest of mine.
If I wasn't working so much with my future work. I would specialize in addictions. It's the it's the new plague. It's the new illness that runs through so many people. I would specialize. But I found I started to get- we attract, I find that with hypnotherapy, we have the whole list of phobias, lose weight, bla bla bla anxiety, but you find certain people are attracted to you and so, for me, it was addiction so I started- I set up my office in Slough, which is a very, very addictive area, you know, you pop in see people in the morning having a brandy in your coffee, it's just one of those areas where it's normal to smoke and drink and to get up to all sorts of things.
So, but a well known guy was in the next office to me, he was just starting out and he didn't get one in five years. Not one in five. I think he had one smoker who didn't stop smoking anyway. He didn't understand addictions. He didn't even drink tea or coffee. So that was how I started out with hypnotherapy. I just kind of got I just got into it more and more. But the past life stuff took off an throughout the ages...
Susanna Sweeney: So, do you still practice in hypnotherapy?
Anne Jirsch: I do, I see clients.
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Susanna Sweeney: Do you do past life regression then, one to one?
Anne Jirsch: Oh yeah one to one, I've done big groups, yeah. But yeah, so I don't do, I do addictions if that's- I've got a friend popping in tomorrow.
Every so often they shop and they need to get off weed, you know just just smoking weed, and a lot of the lung troubles I'm seeing now are with people who smoke weed, but whatever it is any I tend to I get the odd person come in with anxiety but most of the time I pass it over to my daughter because I'm really busy with the future work...
Susanna Sweeney: You talk about this, you know future path, slipping around in time, talk a little bit about that.
Anne Jirsch: Well, how it came about, I worked with past life for many many years after after I I set myself up. Of course I already had a big bank of clients and from from reading card so when I said, I am doing past life, oh yeah, let me, you know, they had far more faith in me than they should have had really but I started taking them into past lives.
And then one day I had these soldiers come to the office and they wanted to look at their past lives and it was just an extraordinary experience because one had come in, have a session, the other one would come in and they'd see the same thing. They didn't collaborate, they couldn't hear. So first they saw, both saw themselves as Vikings on ships going off raiding.
Another time they saw themselves as Native American, another time wartime London, just over and over they kept saying the same thing. So I taught them regression. I'm still friends with them now. This is going back a lot of years. I'm still friends with them, they bring their children up to see me, they're great guys.
One of them's ended up with one of my best friends, but they, I taught them regression and they kept regressing each other and they said, we keep seeing you in one of our past lives. And I thought this is interesting. So I brought in somebody else to take the three of us back to that life.
That was supposed to be what happened- supposed to be what happened. Go back to that life and see what when why we've met up I mean, Steve one of them that, the Glasgow guy calls me spiritual mama, which kind of blows my mind. He's a great big squaddie, you know, he's calling me a spiritual mama.
He kept saying, we've all met for a reason. He's really smart guy, he's a really clever guy. We've all met for a reason, I think I don't know, he expected me to have the answers. He thinks I know everything and I don't.
So I brought in somebody to take us back. We went back to that lifetime. And none of us went back to that lifetime. Not one of us. We thought we just had a very bad session. We thought we'd got it wrong in some way. And we just thought we're not in form.
What happened was we jumped forward and saw the attack on the Twin Towers three weeks before it happened. But we'd had nothing- no precedents to this. So we didn't understand it. Nothing like it happened in the world before. Totally freaky experience.
Susanna Sweeney: You didn't even know you were going into the future. You didn't.
Anne Jirsch: No, we didn't know we had. We didn't know we had. We just thought- what happened was the person who regressed us, who I've since married, he took us, he took us back.
And he said, Steve, what are you seeing, and Steve just said, I'm seeing these two skyscrapers, there's smoke pouring out of them, they are same size. They're next to each other, there is smoke pouring out. There's people on the ground running, there's smoke everywhere. He said, CNN, I'm seeing a helicopter I'm seeing CNN, he says it's America. And he stopped.He said, obviously I didn't go back. I've got it all wrong.
And then he asked Dave, Dave, what are you seeing? And Dave just said, well, I've not seen what I've not gone back either. And I'm not seeing what Steve says. I'm looking at over a bay. He said, the skyline's changed. He said all I know is the skyline- there's something not right with the skyline, he said. But how can the skyline change? l'lI always remember him saying that.
Then he asked me and I said, I've not gone back, but I'm seeing Middle East and a pipeline and oil. So, we gave up. We just went, well, that was rubbish. We've none of us...
Susanna Sweeney: It took another year for all of that to make sense.
Anne Jirsch: Well, three weeks, it happened three weeks later, and we were just- mind blown. And we were also quite shaken up. We didn't know enough to warn anyone or stop it. We didn't know enough with-
Mark Twain once said, what's the point of seeing things we can do nothing about it-he was talking about religion, what's the point of seeing every little bird that falls if you don't catch it, what's the point? And we felt a bit like that. We were quite shaken up quite upset.
And then Steve went missing as he does Steve, Steve is a Glaswegian is very mercurial. He would disappear for several years then just pop up and say I am five minutes away and you've not heard from him for five years. So he went missing.
Dave- I had started to work a lot with Dave and I was taking Dave... So we started to experiment. And we started to make world- predictions of world stuff. And one of the big self help gurus was keeping an eye out. He was going, this is really interesting. You keep predicting things, and they're not obvious. There's some things he'd see as obvious, this wasn't. And he said, you need to start writing this down and documenting it.
So we did. We started writing down, dating and what we'd seen, and the self help guy popped in one day. And so we said, this is the latest we've done, gave him a copy. And he just looked at it as if to say, flip any of that's going to happen.
He phoned me a week later he said, half of that's already happened within a week, he said, and he started to join in a bit and get involved and he really gave us a lot of encouragement. So I took him forward and he saw himself, a big show in the States and he saw himself living in this house but he said, I have no plans to go back to America. No plans to go there and work, he said. I see this very specific house and he described it and while he was I was feeling bit cheeky.
I said, What am I doing? This was at five years. He said, oh wow, you've got a three book deal. And you know, I am completely unknown. I'm in a dusty office in Slough. You know, why would I get a three book deal, you have to be really big to get a three book deal.
Within weeks, he'd been called up by the biggest man in television in America, offered a show. He found the house, he found the house, I've stayed there, right up top of the Hollywood Hills. I am, I was offered a three book deal and it was all, it all just came to us. We didn't go out in search.
I mean, I was at a wedding and the top literary agent in the country who is now the biggest in Europe come up to me and said, I keep hearing about you, Anne, when you're going to write a book? And I said, I'm working on one now.
And fortunately, I've got one of them to take me forward and to my first book, once I knew there was three books, take me forward. You've got your first book in your hand? What's it called? And I just said, instant intuition. That's where I've got the title, from the future.
Susanna Sweeney: Amazing.
Anne Jirsch: So I told the agent that yeah, yeah, I'm working on this book. And we had the title, so totally freaked. We've got one of them to take me forward to see what the book was about. So that's how it all kind of moved on in in to that point.
Susanna Sweeney: It's fascinating to see the two fields mixed. I think your work is really very, very original.
Anne Jirsch: Yeah, I think it's a funny one because it's the hypnotherapy field is overcrowded now and there's a lot of stuff that's just a makey-up of a combination of things. And people have been around five minutes and, you know, I think it's, I think a lot of going to go out of hypnotherapy. You get this you get too many people go into something then it calmes down again. So it's, it's quite a funny, messy, old time.
Susanna Sweeney: Sure, sure natural selection, should we call it.
Anne Jirsch: Say that again?
Susanna Sweeney: Natural selection.
Anne Jirsch: Oh, yes. Isn't it just, Well, I think we've got some of that coming up. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And there's lots of angry people in hypnotherapy. And I think it's- they'll think they're going to be the new big thing. And...
Susanna Sweeney: Well, and there's a lot of people who haven't done their work at all.
Anne Jirsch: That's true. That's true.
Susanna Sweeney: I think when you're talking about therapy as in hypnotherapy, the most important thing as a therapist, is that you clear your own issues, like at least in the area where you want to work.
Anne Jirsch: Yes, I think so.
Susanna Sweeney: Right, because otherwise, you can actually- that's the underlying principle- you can never bring your clients any further than you have gone yourself.
Anne Jirsch: That's so so so true. And I think, you know, it's such a broad field, you can be working on weight loss, you can be working with trauma, there's so many different areas. And I don't, I always think don't try and be good at all of it. I see a lot of people going anybody got a script for somebody that's been badly abused, and you go, oh, don't even touch it if you don't, if you haven't already worked through this and you- no, don't see I refer on more people than I see. And that's...
Susanna Sweeney: You have a great specialization.
Anne Jirsch: I do. But I've been around this forty years, and I just every now and again think somebody else would be better at doing this and what I would and that that's when I pass people on. I would never try and do everything in hypnotherapy, never- because there are people that specialize and they're really good at their area. So I like- I like to pass people on, you know, post traumatic stress, I've just said post traumatic stress...
Susanna Sweeney: That's my area by the way. I do. I've been doing that for 25 years Anne.
Anne Jirsch: Have you?
Susanna Sweeney: Yeah, that is, trauma and anxiety both.
Anne Jirsch: Yeah, brilliant. See I don't understand that. I just think you've got a kind of- that's why with addictions, I find a lot of therapists talk a lot about addictions.
And they don't understand addiction- that, you talk to an alcoholic druggie that's recovered, they talk about being in recovery. They'll always be in recovery. 40 years later, they say their recovery and therapists get really angry and go, Well, they're just locked into being victims and that, you go, you don't understand addictions. You don't.
Talk to a therapist, it's been an addict or an alcoholic. And they'll go now get it. It's a type of thinking. And it's a type of person that the average therapist isn't going to get. And they're not going to understand it, Not in a million years. And they took that big success rate, but they haven't. They haven't. They haven't got a big success rate.
Susanna Sweeney: Anne let's get back to your work though..
Anne Jirsch: Yeah. Yeah.
Susanna Sweeney: So your future life progression. What do people use it for? What do your clients come to you for?
Anne Jirsch: Well, one of the major things these days is about career. It's about career, because whatever you do, it's going to keep changing. And that's why I wrote the new book because I know the world of work's going to keep changing.
And I've really been thinking this for a good few years now- that people are coming to me and saying: What do I do next? Where do I go next? Or you know, I've been talking to under the business leaders- one of the country's business leaders and we both said, you have to keep reinventing yourself.
You can't just go and say I'm an accountant I'm this, I'm that- you've got to keep reinventing yourself. And the speed of change is actually getting faster it's escalating, and it's continuing. So people need to know their next move or they need to think on their feet- so career is a big one. I'd say work- what new- what's coming up in your industry?
Let's find the most successful you- let's find that most successful you. Where are you? What are you doing? What, what because we've got too many options these days and the one of the things we need- if you try and do everything- people who go on a course every weekend- if you try and do everything, you're just going to end up scattered.
You need to narrow- you could look at somebody like Steve Miller, he knows exactly what he's doing. He knows exactly where he's heading. He knows exactly his game plan. And you know what he does he's not telling you he is going to cure this and cure that- you know what he does. And that's it- Smith, you know what he does.
See, we are too scattered, so I help people find their big thing in the future, because we have our best, what is your most successful in the future? We anchor it, bring it back to the current time and get things moving very quickly.
Now, we also help people find that perfect home because you can't afford to get that wrong. And sometimes a lot of people even come- oh, am I ever gonna meet somebody, you know, or is this gonna work out? Or I'm having problems, how can we overcome it?
So we just go to the future where they've resolved it, or found what they're looking for at their most successful. That's what we do. So we zoom in and what we see happen- this isn't what you're wishing to happen we actually do see future.
Susanna Sweeney: Amazing and then, so these people, what do they do with the information they gain?
Anne Jirsch: Well, it's more to do with what's different about you in the future to you now say if I took you forward and you're doing certain things in the future, what's different about you, how are you handle in life, who you mixing with? How do you make things happen?
How did you feel in stance, it's amazing how much stance comes into it. When you take people forward they actually stand different. I do this on myself quite regularly. And I immediately stopped wasting time with things that don't matter- much more honed.
I sit different, I think different I sit up straighter, I kind of- my whole being changes, kind of almost an energetic thing. What's different about you? I found when I first started doing this on myself it was quite weird- I saw myself on stage talking at the time- alright, I really bad phobia about public speaking.
I mean, it made me feel ill. I went to one of the NLP trainings and one of these sisters got rid of it in four minutes, and I had it 20 years, and she got rid of it in four minutes. But at the time I was thinking oh I can't see me getting up on stage, but it's up on stage as wearing a navy suit, I went straight out bought a navy suit. I just had to come across this girl that cleared the public speaking.
Two weeks later I am on stage talking to 250 people for an hour and a half without notes just solid too. It's just like whoomp buff, you know, straight into it. And people started calling me up. I just started to get taken seriously. It was weird. I wasn't.
And I'm not a fan of saying this because especially I work in the spiritual field, where everyone sits there waiting for an angel to drop it in their lap or manifest it and it's gonna fall out the sky and I'm very much from a background where you work hard and where you get out there but I found that- when I, that inner change happened to me, people started showing up.
And it was bizarre- all of a sudden, I'm invited to celebrity parties or come to sit in on our big board meeting and it was like- what, me from Slough and these things are happening. And it happened very quickly. I went from Slough to international sort of overnight.
It's not just me, my clients, we were doing very much the same. My clients were coming back and the people that trained with me to set up the FLP practitioner training, the practitioners were coming back- ten of them have written their own books now. They're kind of developing their own stuff. They fast tracked their careers that they- they're amazing to watch.
Susanna Sweeney: So, FLP, is it scripted hypnosis?
Anne Jirsch: I do have scripts, but I use them more as a guideline. So I like to have a structure and this is one of the big things in in hypnosis. Some are like, oh scripts are and so bad, but I find a lot of it messy without a script when I've got on trainings and they don't have any structure, it kind of I find it a bit messy and I can never remember what they've said or the...
Susanna Sweeney: It can be a good starting point because it gives you an idea of...
Anne Jirsch: I like i like to have a script as a structure. A lot of people come with me haven't done anything before it's not so bad if you're well seasoned hypnotherapist because you would know what to do, but and the other thing is I don't want to work fast.
I don't want to, oh, I put you know there's some some of the people in hypnotherapy, one of them in particular, forever boasts he can put somebody in a trance in 10 seconds. I mean, he didn't and then afterwards gone ahm nothing happened.
But they would be boasting about it and I just go, I want, when I work with people I want to be an experience. I don't want to do this in five minutes. I want to say I don't see. I can see the benefit somebody's got a phobia get rid of it quick and I'm very much- Bandler I love the fast work and I love it for a lot of things= so say the girl who got rid of my phobia in four minutes.
I do love to fast work, but for what I do? No, I would, I want to have a nice structure, i want it to be colorful. I want to bring out all the senses. So I have a script to kind of get people visualizing and feeling and using all their senses their their auditory. So I want to make it more of an experience for what I do.
Yes, I've got a script, they deviate from the script, they do what they want, but they've got that structure. Some people pretty much stick to it. But after a while, you can see him kind of getting into the flow. And they develop their own way of working. I like a script. I do like a proper script as a structure.
Susanna Sweeney: So is it a little bit like- the word isn't coming to me now. But there's a whole big area where they visualize the future with- what's that there's a term for that isn't there? (Remote Viewing)
Anne Jirsch: Ah, well. I don't know what the term is. But one of the things that I've found, I found this early on as I was working with past life regression, there's a certain amount of people that will go- I can't see anything, I can't see anything and they start to panic.
And so I've worked through this and what I do before I do the session- I find out person's dominant sense. And so, when you're working with somebody quite ask them about, what was the last trip you went on? I went to Benadorm.
Okay. Tell me what it was like I've never been there? And how they answer you they'll tell you their dominant sense- some people describe it, they go, ah the sunset, lovely room, and this and that, they describe- some people go up so relaxes you know, they're more feeling.
Some people are more thought forms, they're interested in that. They'll tell you what time they arrived, what room number they're in, they are usually quite good in business. And I always say to him, don't worry, you might see, you might feel, you might just have thoughts pop into your head- the information will come to you however it wants to.
And then they're not so hung up on trying to visualize- a lot people say they can't visualize, they say, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't visualize. I'll go, what color's your front door? Oh, it's red.
And I'll go, you just thought of a visual image. You can't tell me that without buil...-or what's your phone number. You can't give me your phone number without building an image in your head. It's not like seeing that cup- the cup will be in your mind's eye. It's not the same as actually seeing it, but you are building an image and they calm down a bit then.
Susanna Sweeney: And so whatever- whatever the dominant sense is, you're helping people really build a picture of through their senses.
Anne Jirsch: Yes.
Susanna Sweeney: In whatever way works, whatever way it works for them...
Anne Jirsch: Whatever way it works for them. Not everybody is visual. I work a lot in the Middle East and they're very feeling- in the Middle East they're very feely, feely.
In Japan, they're very thoughtful, you know, depends where you work in the world, how they- some places are more dominant on the senses. But once people know that, they stop being under pressure.
But d'you know- d'you know Susanna, it's a funny thing, the amount of times you'll get somebody go, I can't see anything. And if you say to them, if you could, what would it be? They'll go, oh, well, I'm in this big white house.... And they'll tell you, it's like they do.
But it's almost if they're holding back a little bit, as if they were supposed to not got it wrong. So you just ask them that question, and they all stop and they're telling you it's amazing.
Susanna Sweeney: It's interesting because I do something similar. Well, what if you know, it's like people sometimes can say affirmations. If you give them the phrase, what if I could it in front of it and it becomes more possible, you know, rather than I love myself. What if I could love myself?
Anne Jirsch: I love that. That's really nice. Yeah.
Susanna Sweeney: This actually comes from from Tony Burgess, who brought in the What if term I find it really useful.
Anne Jirsch: I haven't met him but our paths have kind of nearly crossed. We've both been working in the same part of Norway, but then going out to staffing during our pubs have not quite crossed. But I've heard good things.
Susanna Sweeney: Yeah, he's he's a really good guy. Yeah.Anne Jirsch:
Yeah. People have said that. Yeah, people and that's Yeah, a lot of people I know said he's a great guy. Yeah.
Susanna Sweeney: So tell me, to round it up, talk a little bit about your trainings and what people can expect on your trainings and talk a little bit about your books.
Anne Jirsch: Yes, sure. I love talking about my trainings and books. So the training, what happened was the second book come out, which was about future life progression, and it did sell really well worldwide. It's in 13 languages, came out in about 20 countries.
And I was just swamped, and I'm quite happy jumping on planes. It's great fun, you know, kids are grown, I got it all over. It's great fun, but I realized I couldn't do it all so I thought maybe I should train a few people. I think in my head I thought six or something.
Of course I put on the first training and it packed and it just continued and then would you come to Dubai and do training, would you come to Japan and do training. So I ended up teaching quite a lot of people. And it's a three day training and I just give people everything they possibly need, everything.
They get two manuals, they do get scripts, they get prompt they get everything. As I say, well seasoned hypnotherapists they've got their own way of working. So what I do as a guideline...
Susanna Sweeney: Does it work better if people already have psychic or intuitive abilities?Anne Jirsch:
Intuitive, most people are intuitive. I find with hypnotherapists they can get- I ask them take the hypnotherapy hat off when they come in, just chill out and just go with the flow because for hypnotherapy, you need a lot more protocols. We're doing more of a guided visualization.
I try- I don't actually talk about hypnosis. I use all the hypnotic techniques. But I don't call it hypnosis. It's just easier not to and I just say it's some relaxation with guided visualization. Often with the hypnotherapists. I have to say to them: "Stop overanalyzing everything." They overanalyze. They get too in-depth.
Hypnotherapists these days are really full- too full of knowledge rather than working instinctively. And that's a real shame when they do that. So, I get them to go chill out and have a great experience. Just flow with it.
And so yes, it's a three day training, we have- people change because we're constantly working on each other. We're constantly working. So I teach them...
The consultation, I think is the most important part, how I think that's really, really important just to sit just to find out what that person needs to know I was thinking is a really important part. I teach them what they need to know there.
And often guys will come and just go, Oh, I just need to know about stress at work. And if I'm going to be- really they want to know if they're going to meet a nice girl, you know, they're not going to- you have to talk to them for a while and then they'll tell you what they really want.
So, I've given a lot of guidelines for the consultation, the relaxation, a very process, taking people into past lives, into the next lifetime. That's good fun. Five and ten years in our current time finding the best possible future. We do a whole range of stuff. That's really, really good, where people walk out and they're different. They're just different when they leave there. It changes you, doing this so and we found that they really bond as well...
Susanna Sweeney: So you just, you suddenly can see more possibilities. I'd imagine... we are welded to this moment, aren't we and so to this physical reality, and then you realize it's a playing field.
Anne Jirsch: And exactly that and the other thing is we have limitations right now. Imagine if whatever is limited in your thinking, right now you jump beyond it.
You go to the future where you... so things that you... think back ten years things you would have been limited, maybe not good out or beliefs you had. You've jumped the time now where you've gone way beyond that. Imagine doing that going ten years in the future and there's Susanna that just- has gone way beyond that.
And in bringing that back to now we bring it back into current consciousness and that's the real magic. So the training I've got one is September- I love, I love doing the training. I've also got trainers. I've got trainers in a number of places and they're super super good we got South Africa, Japan, we got some Middle East I'm going to be doing one in Dubai in December. But yeah, we got trailers in a number of places- Ireland, we got a good girl in Ireland.
Susanna Sweeney: Oh you do?
Anne Jirsch: Yeah, Yvonne- Yvonne is great I mean she's a brilliant trainer, very experienced.
Susanna Sweeney: Where is she based?Anne Jirsch:
I think she's out your way. I could be wrong. I'll have to- I'll try and remember where she is now. Sorry, I have so many people in so many places that I'm talking to, you know what it's like when you get on Zoom. I'll try to remember she might be out your way- Yvonne, Yvonne Griffin you probably come across her, she's a really good trainer.
See she's already an experienced trainer, where I've been lucky FLP has attracted really, really cool people really, really cool people.
And, and they get on they end up- anyway book, talking 100 miles an hour...there. And...
Susanna Sweeney: I saw that when it came out first, I saw it on your social media.
Anne Jirsch: It came out the week of the lockdown. And it's about how the world's going to keep changing- sideswiping you and your work's gonna keep changing. So the timing was very interesting. I spent five years working on this book.
I usually spend six months but I spent three years researching because I kept- I knew there was a lot of change about to come. And I think we've got a lot more it just happens to be this pandemic at the moment but it'll be
Susanna Sweeney: It's very timely, very...
Anne Jirsch: Very, very, yeah, very timely..
Susanna Sweeney: So from, what can people hope to get from the book?
Anne Jirsch: Right well, I've got ten strategies that we need for the future. What do we need? Now I spoke to some really cool people interviewed a number of people who always seem to be ahead of the game, not stressed, know what they're doing.
So that was really, really handy. So I teach people how to use their intuition. There's a lot of science to intuition these days. So for people familiar with NLP, I actually broke down the sub modalities of intuition. And that got very, very interesting- some of the top NLPers are going, oh- not seen that before- that's cool. So how does your intuition actually work? Rather than go oh, I've just said this inspiration.
I've just got this feeling. What is the feeling? What does it feel like? How do you process that feeling that's going, woah be careful. How do you process that feeling? Brilliant. And when you do that, you've already got a sliver of whatever that sub modality is, and you're aware. See high- people at the top use their intuition more.
That's been uncovered in a number of major studies show. So I teach people about how to really use their intuition their three brains how to use their, their brains because we're often using the wrong brain. In in the spirit- in the self help field people use- make emotional decisions when they shouldn't be. That's why most, most self help people, most hypnotherapist are rubbish at business.
They're all heart centered, they're not using their head, they're not using the gut. So I show them what to do there. How to find your tribe, and creativity. So much is being taken over by AI. The big creative geniuses are gonna roll, the Elon Musks are gonna roll. I've known this for a long time, the the creative people, the ideas people are gonna roll, so I've actually got ten strategies in there, packed with exercises and things people can do. And it's all things they need for the future.
Susanna Sweeney: Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. So we wish you all the best, Anne.Anne Jirsch:
Susanna Sweeney: Thank you so much for joining me. Yeah, it's been fantastic to talk to you- really inspiring. And we'll talk again, sometime soon.Anne Jirsch
We certainly will, you take care.
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